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When Citizens Rebel

First, I do not and will not promote insurrection.  But I will promote active dissent, even active disobedience when it comes to maintaining the practice of one's faith.  The time is coming closer with the current situation in D.C.  As report in the Washington Post today, the D.C. council has taken upon itself the authority to decide when one can or cannot practice their religious beliefs.

Under the bill, headed for a council vote next month, religious organizations would not be required to perform or make space available for same-sex weddings.

How dare they!  They should be silent on the matter.  They should speak neither positively nor negatively.

But they would have to obey city laws prohibiting discrimination against gay men and lesbians. Church officials say Catholic Charities would have to suspend its social services work for the city, rather than provide employee benefits to same-sex married couples or allow them to adopt.

What an arrogant bunch of thugs!  If one participates at all in civic affairs then one has to hire homosexuals!  That is wrong.  The Romans should stand up against the city and stand in contempt of illegal laws.  Call their bluff.  Let Congress, which manages D.C., come out and make its position clear.  Let's see how much statism the Left in D.C. is willing to enforce.  Let's see them throw a few people in jail for the cause of religious liberty.
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One More Liberty Lost

Well, not yet. But it looks pretty likely. Washington, D.C., the city that should be the protector of liberty is now bent on reducing liberty. Specifically, the city is bent on reducing religious liberty. And they are doing it in the same fashion as Massachusetts did a few years ago.

Tim Craig and Michelle Boorstein of the Washington Post report today (Nov. 12, 2009, front page) that

The Catholic Archdiocese of Washington said Wednesday that it will be unable to continue the social service programs it runs for the District if the city doesn’t change a proposed same-sex marriage la, a threat that could affect tens of thousands of people the church helps with adoption, homelessness, and ehalth care.

Under the bill, headed for a D. C. Council vote next month, religious organizations would not be required to make space available for same-sex weddings. But they would have to obey city laws prohibiting discrimination against gay mean and lesbians.

Fearful that they could be forced, among other things, to extend employee benefits to same-sex married couples, church officials said they would have no choice but to abandon their contracts with the city.

If you are unfamiliar with the happenings in Massachusetts a few years ago, the Catholic Church was forced to withdraw from participation in the foster care and adoption system of the state because of moral objections to having to place children into homosexual households. The state could have accommodated the church and modified their procedures, but they chose to do otherwise, thus removing the church from equal rights to participate in civic matters on account of religious beliefs.

The Post article goes further:

If the city requires this, we can’t do it,” Susan Gibbs, spokeswoman for the archdiocese, said Wednesday. “The city is saying in order to provide social services, you need to be secular. For us, that’s really a problem.”

Several D.C. Council members said the Catholic Church is trying to erode the city’s long-standing laws protecting gay men and lesbians from discrimination.

And of course there is the expected accusation from the homosexual community:

Peter Rosenstein of the Campaign for Alll D.C. Families accused the church of trying to “blackmail the city.” 

“The issue here is that they are using public funds, and to allow people to discriminate with public money is unacceptable,” Rosenstein said.

And

“If they find living under our laws so oppressive that they can no longer cake city resources, the city will have to find an alternative partner to step in to fill the shoes,” Catina said. He also said Catholic Charities was involved in only six of the 102 city-sponsored adoptions last year.

Terry Lynch, head of the Downtown Cluster of Congregations, said he did not know of any other group in the city that was making such a threat.

“Are they really going to harm people because they have a philosophical disagreement with us on one issue?” Cheh asked. “I hope, in the silver light of day, when this passes, because it will pass, they will not really act on this threat.”

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Now, is anyone outraged? Well, the homosexual advocates are. But are we? Can we promote liberty while they, under their special-rights processes, seek to secularize society and turn the church into a servant of the secular state. This is statism at its worst.  Discrimination against religious beliefs and related liberty, under law.  But what has changed, really?  The homosexual thugs will not stop at restricting religious liberty to enforce their agenda.  They will go further if they are allowed to win more of these battles.  They want control of your belief system and find the church to be their greatest opponent. 

Your tax dollars at work.

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Steps in American History

Step 1 was our identity crisis. From the beginning through the Civil War we sought to clarify our system of government, leaving the Articles of Confederation and moving onto the more centralized Constitution. We ended our bout with slavery and secured rights. We secured the hemisphere from European expansion and the threat it posed.


Step 2 was the First Corruption. From Grant to Hoover we gathered together into government a collection of the new corporate manipulaors.

Step 3 was the beginning of the American Empire. Whether it was our unique style of economic colonialism or (especially) the Wilsonian attempt to influence on other national identities, or today's neoconservative treatment of democracy as a commodity to be exported, our disintegration is now quite serious.

Empire is empire. The Caesar ignored the Senate. The Pelosi dismisses the Constitution. The Frank admittedly does not question jurisdiction. (We will only briefly mention his relationship with illegal substances and homosexual prostitution.) The Obama inserts admitted communists into government and promotes limitation on media that criticize him (specifically Fox News and by implication, Clear Channel Communications via the media diversity, media justice movement).

Can the U.S. survive itself? Some days I wonder. While I think the classic liberal position holds great hope for the world, today's Marxists leave no hope for a free society to survive.

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Separation of Church and State as Marx' Replacement Theology

Back, again, to my primary social concern:  Marxism.  No surprise there.

The first impression of Marxist motives usually leads us to the idea of statism.  The principle that Marx proclaimed, that religion is the opiate of the people, sets the church beneath the state.  That may seem more Hegelian than particularly Marxist, but still plays into the goals of Marx.

Today's popular Marxists, like the ACLU, proclaim the state and church as separate entities.  That is, there is to be no reciprocal relationship between then.  The church is best of being outside the control of government and likewise the government must not approach anything resembling the old theocracies.  So the question becomes plain:  How do we fit this into the Marxist paradim?

It is a simple error to miss the revolutionary intentions of Marx and his end game.  In the end the Marxist intends that the church serves the interest of the state.  To get there, that's another story.  It goes to Marx' view of virtue and ethics, of what is real and what is unreal.  For to Marx only the material is real and that leaves all religion and faith unreal.  And what is unreal is to be rejected, to be set aside and replaced with his materialism.

The process winds its way through two general steps.  The first is to marginalize the church.  The second is use this marginalized position to present the Marxist alternative to a church that is impotent.

Marginalization came by way of a redefinition of theology.  By employing Freuerbach and others of similar persuasion, religious belief was changed from the immanent God who is involved in human affairs to something unreal and merly emotional.  Bockmuehl states it this way (p. 31, The Challenge of Marxism):

Is Christianity real?  This attack leveled by Marx and Engels is of special concern to Christians because the slogan "real humanism," which sums up the attack, was also used to point out the alleged unreality of Chrsitian theology.  "Real humanism" was the battle cry shouted at the thin spiritualism of contemporary Protestant theology as well as at speculative, idealistic philsophy.  bot of these never got anywhere near the actual situation of the proletariat, because they were so occupied with more spiritual things.  Therefore, Marx and Engels looked at this kind of "religious inhumanity" as one of their main enemies.

This approach is part of the Marxist criticism.  His "critical thinking" was not what we would probably term "critical analysis."  For Marx it was an intentional attack on what has been heretofore assumed to be true.  Critical thinking was and his the Marxist method for tearing down obstacles for the establishment of his world view as a system.  This was his "ruthless criticism of the existing order" that we might today read on bumper stickers as Subvert the Dominant Paradigm.

The door has now been opened to replace an unreal and impotent Christianity (or any other religion) with a strictly human way of doing things. As Lennon said, and employing many of the core principles of a Marxist world view:Imagine there's no Heaven

It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today


Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace

You may say that I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one


Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world


You may say that I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one

This criticism of religion is Marx' foundation.  Again, as Bockmuehl says (p. 51):

In 1844 Karl marx published his essay entitled "A Contribution to the Critique of hegel's Philosophy of Law: Introduction."  Contrary to its abstract title, this piece carried significant concrete weight:  It was the manifesto of early Marxism.  the very first sentence contained a two-point thesis:  For Germany the criticism of religion is in the main complete, and criticism of religion is the premise of all criticism."

This is intended to leave religious faith vulnerable, and that was his goal throughout.  But while we may philosophyically prove the assumption to be in error, the step that we must take is to raise our theology above the compromise of pluralism and to make Christianity more and more real -- practically beneficial -- to the world around us.  Calvin did this in Geneva.  Rome did this by ending slavery in Europe during the first millennium.  English protestantism initiated the end of secularism's slavery through Newton and Wilberforce.

And, looking back on the heritage of Marx, we can clarify the impotence and abuses of his world view despite the rantings of Obama and Schaeffer.  The compromise of faith is a plain dismissal of that faith, for the acceptance of Marxism is an acceptance of its atheism.

Today gods from the right and the left compete to impress the church and persuade it, causing it to reduce itself to nothing but the moderate expression of the accepted opinions of the day.  In contrast to this the first task of the church is to find and keep its identity. (Bockmuehl, p. 21)

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The Emperor Worship of Eugene Robinson

Mr. Robinson begins his Oct. 13 editorial comment Obama's High Bar in this manner:

Somebody explain this to me: The president of the United States wins the Nobel Peace Prize and Rush Limbaugh joins with the Taliban in bitterly denouncing the award? Glenn Beck has a conniption fit and demands that the president not accept what may be the world's most prestigious honor? The Republican National Committee issues a statement sarcastically mocking our nation's leader -- elected, you will recall, by a healthy majority -- as unworthy of such recognition?

Does Mr. Robinson really want an explanation?  No.  He is enamored with the Nobel Peace Prize, an honor only given to progressive American presidents.  In this case it was given to Obama quite early, even before he could sacrifice Israel or any other ally.  Before he could surrender our Iraq victory or any success in Afghanistan where we might catch OBL.  Before he could take control of the census, before more than half of the economy could be placed under federal control.  Before he could take ownership in GM away from stockholders (many retired people) and give it to the union.  Before his nouveau Communist method could take control of private business and economy, despite the Tenth Amendment.  No, Mr. Robinson did not want an answer to the question.  He believes that President Obama deserves this just for doing nothing productive.

 

Mr. Robinson's opinion of critics follows the party line.

Why, oh why, do conservatives hate America so?

Mr. Robinson apparently believes that anyone who disagrees with President Obama hates America.  Hmmm.  Just a year ago dissent was patriotic.  It seems that the Left has had a change of heart.

 

Mr. Robinson does not believe that there is any sound reason to reject recoginition of the legitimacy of this award.

The problem for the addlebrained Obama-rejectionists is that the president, as far as they are concerned, couldn't possibly do anything right ...

Well, if the nomination was done in February, what had he yet accomplished.  And really, what has he done?  It's the Dem's Senate and House that are doing the work.  He talks about his health care plan, but he has none.  He denounces police for doing their job even when he says that he does not have the facts.  He has done nothing to control federal spending.  He has devalued our currency by monetizing our economy and bringing inflation.

 

Mr. Robinson seems to have idea what Obama's foreign policy is about

Obama has shifted U.S. foreign policy away from George W. Bush's cowboy ethos toward a multilateral approach. He envisions, and has begun to implement, a different kind of U.S. leadership that I believe is more likely to succeed in an interconnected, multipolar world. That this shift is being noticed and recognized is to Obama's credit -- and to our country's.

Yes, Obama has shifted away from an independent America to the traditional and Leftist perspective of the Wilsonians.  There is nothing new here.  There is no change.  It is the imperialism of socialism that seeks to use multilaterism to impose purportedly American interests on the world.  We saw the destructiveness of Clinton's neo-liberal economic policies on Latin America.  We can anticipate the same from President Obama.  Assuming, that is, if he is actually going to do something positive, something other than posturing.

He has launched historic initiatives to revolutionize health care, energy policy and the way we educate our children. He said flatly during the campaign that he wants to be remembered as a transformational president.

Yes, President Obama has taken this nation further Left than we might have imagined.

 

This type of emperor worship is destructive.  It leads to a surrender of intelligence to the unquestioned goals of The Leader.  And that is dangerous.

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Much Ado About Liberty

Amid cries of a new McCarthyism, today's Left continues to move further and further away from liberty and towards communism.

We've all heard about the plain liberation theology of Wright and the affirmed communism of Van Jones.  We know of President Obama's communist mentor Saul Alinsky and we cannot forget Bill Ayers.  Now here's another for the list.

Check out Ray Nagin.  He worked on Obama's 2008 labor campaign.  And he is the former head of the Ohio Communist Party.

We must try to understand why the commies flock to Obama unlike Clinton and the rest.  They are getting pretty bold.  And that ought to be a real concern for those who love liberty.

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Campaign Prediction: 2012

No, the world will  not end.  Not at the hands of Republicans, Democrats, or any other political group or manipulator.  My prediction is about the coming presidential campaign.

When I think about the current state of the Republican party and the very populist conservative movement, both the party and the nation are in store for a surprise.

The Dems are vulnerable.  Some of their recent "victories" were in close races.  And with President Obama now doing nothing meaningful (well, he is surrendering in both Iraq and Afghanistan, despite our clear victory in Iraq), the door is open to a candidate with both qualities.

What does the Republican party have?  Newt Gingrich and Michele Bachman.  Both social conservatives.  Both quite intelligent.  And able to make a sound argument.  Bachman would have no trouble in a debate with the Vice-Plagerist.

Gingrich is also the one who can help with access to health care without destroying 17% of the economy.  His discussion of the topic was on CSpan-broadcasted debate a couple of years ago.  With some modification it has practical possibilities.

So -- I anticipate a Gingrich/Bachman ticket.  They can win.

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Know Your Enemy

A saying derived from the classic The Art of War, it is a principle that transcends warfare.  In logic and debate, for instance, one is obliged to defend one's position against criticism.  A position is not acceptable as sound unless it is able to hold its own against criticism.  One might infer that, in one sense, there are no sound arguments because it appears that every position is subject to criticisms that are impossible to answer.  There is a sense in which that is true.  It's not necessary that a sound argument be flawless, but rather that it be consistent and properly structured, with the result that it survives those criticisms of structure.

Today I watched President Obama's address to the Human Rights Campaign, a homosexual advocacy group, from yesterday (10/10/2009).  He wants to end "discrimination in all its forms" and he attempts to build what he considers "a more perfect union."  Despite the historical nonsense of the latter statement (the cause for the Constitution vs. the Articles of Confederation has nothing to do with either presumed natural, aka "human", rights or civil law), the former expresses the most unsound argument of the homosexual rights movement.  But it's not simply the incoherence of the tolerance doctrine.  Much has been written on that in the past.

President Obama's politicization of religious liberty provides a view into the most disgusting world view that I have yet heard a President speek in public.  His words speak volumes:

There are still fellow citizens, perhaps neighbors, even loved ones -- good and decent people -- who hold fast to outworn arguments and old attitudes; who fail to see your families like their families; who would deny you the rights most Americans take for granted.

What does he want to change?  He wants to change your (and my) private religious, moral belief system to accommodate his political agenda.  This is where the homosexual agenda clearly infringes on other civil liberties and rights.  For the President to attack the First Amendment with such energy ought to be cause for impeachment, or at least censure.  (But not from this Congress.  No a chance in hell.  Most literally.)

In summary:

1) President Obama appears to not understand the history of the Constitution.

 

2) President Obama appears to not understand the content of the Constitution.

Confronting #1 is done with the core bit of history provided.

Number 2 requires us to do some additional exposure of this President's view of your own rights and property.  He has now left society's belief system, its soul, not just religious, at the disposal of the government.  We do not know if Obama, or some subsequent president, will take our national heart and do something evil with it.  But we do know that it is the liberal mind that follows more easily.  We don't know if the abuse of power will come from a Hegelian like Hitler or a Marxist-Leninist like Stalin.  But we can say that the efforts of the post-enlightenmet philosophers and theologians will be a major influence.

This is where liberal theology fails.  If there is no God then the liberal lacks an authority.  The door is open to statism.

This is where Marxist liberalism fails.  If there is only the material, then there is a need for an authority to control material goods.  Statism is all that remains.

The evangelical must speak out against these.

The non-evangelical conservative may choose an appeal to classic liberalism.  This is useful, but probably cannot be accomplished with simple pragmatism.  Secular conservatives, it seems, cannot forget either natural law or natural rights.  Without these the more recent incarnations of naturalism might have the upper hand.

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Stop the Talking Points

Stop the Talking Points is a new blog dedicated specifically to confronting the talking points of the anti-captialist (a nice way of saying Marxist) movement toward a more Leftist US system.  Because (though I really dislike his tone, the conclusion is essentially correct) Glenn Beck is correct that these folks hate liberty and love socialism.  They hate our Constitution and love the redistributive agenda.  It is their platform.

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For Wisconsin to Beat Ohio State

OK, next week's game is big.  Really big.  Wisconsin ought to be ranked, but is not.  They deserve it.  And a win next week should place them in the top 15, no problem.  So here is my strategy (as though I have any influence) to beat the Buckeyes.

1.  OSU has a big, fast defensive line.  The best up-front offensive strategy is to force them to over-run plays.  Then they will be baited to under-run plays, and then the running game can proceed.

So how do you make a fast defensive line over-run a play?  Make them move back and forth.  Tressel likes those line wedges to create a slant hole for a runner.  If the badger offensive line can create these, quickly, and force the line to think run constantly then the short pass will open up.

2.  Builiding on that, Tressel always has some great linebackers.  The play selection should force them to either come in or drop back. So, some creative formations will open up the middle.  Some draw plays, delay plays, and the like will open up the short pass and short run.  And it's not hard to win with a series of plays that regularly produce 5-8 yards each.

3.  Concentrate on the short pass plays, but have the wide receivers alternat from deep to post, and even to pulling the linebackers off the line to support the run.

IOW, I think the best offensive strategy is a set of play calls that keeps the defense thinking too much.  That makes a defense unresponsive.

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Four Memories for a Free Economy

These principles should be kept in mind whever we hear President Obama give his reasons for nationalizing the health insurance industry:

1.  The economy is rebounding despite his stated premise that a rebound requires nationalizing the industry.

2.  A decrease in insurance cost does not have a positive economic benefit.  Removing profit from the private economy does exactly the opposite -- it kills the economy.

3.  The public option will be available to all as a default.  When companies switch from profit-based insurance to tax-based insurance, unemployment must increase.

4.  Unions support the public option only because it means more union government jobs.

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A Case Against Homosexual Marriage

BSK presented this challenge, to present a coherent argument against homosexual marriage, in his recent comments:

The fact is you haven't presented any legitimate, rational arguments against gay marriage. You have pushed your bigotry and hid behind a bunch of thinly-veiled pseudo-arguments but could not actually demonstrate how you (or any other hetero individual) is adversely impacted by the elimination of the denial of marriage to same-sex couples.


You claim to have demonstrated a rational discussion of the topic, but any rational rebuttal to your argument has simply led you to spin in another direction. So, answer the question: How are you harmed by gay marriage?

And, if you want to deny your bigotry, why do you insist on bringing up stories of negative interactions with gay men that are in no way related to the conversation? To slyly justify your bigotry? To paint the group with broad strokes? Simply saying something does not make it true. You have not been rational. And you have been bigoted. If you disagree with this, PROVE ME WRONG.And if you are going to point to biblical justifications, then I'll have to continue to call BS. First off, there are a host of things that the bible considers sinful or otherwise opposes, yet I do not see you approach such topics with the same vitriol. Secondly, seeing as how we are not a theocracy, our legal opinions must, specifically, NOT be informed by scripture. Thirdly, the bible (as are most religious texts) is full of bigotry.

And if you are going to point to biblical justifications, then I'll have to continue to call BS. First off, there are a host of things that the bible considers sinful or otherwise opposes, yet I do not see you approach such topics with the same vitriol. Secondly, seeing as how we are not a theocracy, our legal opinions must, specifically, NOT be informed by scripture. Thirdly, the bible (as are most religious texts) is full of bigotry.

The constraints are these:

1) The arguments must be rational

2) The argument must show how gay marriage affects others

3) The argument must contain no Biblical references, or be informed by Christian theology

The direction we will take is to first examine the constraints that BSK has placed on the argument.  These constraints are problematic and appeal to a method that seeks to find its end by limiting the scope of the discussion.  The secular and rational components can be dealth with first as inappropriate constraints.  After that we can present the case against homosexual marriage.

Undefined Secularism

The idea, the principle, of secularism can be defined from two perspectives. On the one hand, secularism is the non-inclusion of religious language. The U.S. Constitution, for example, is secular because it does not contain any overtly theological language. It is passive on the subject. On the other hand, secular may also be understood a the active, intentional rejection of any religious language. Again, the U.S. Constitution is, by this definition, not secular because it does not reject religious language from either the nation’s social structure or local laws. The only specific religious statement concerns religious tests for office. Even here, however, it says nothing about the character of the candidate, but only about restrictions placed upon candidates. In other words, this statement merely enforces passive neutrality on religious questions.

In this light it is easy to see why, early in our nation’s history, religious live was neutrally promoted and at the same time no denomination was promoted. It was not until the late 20th century that the definitions began to change so that even a neutral promotion of private religious behavior would become criminal (unconstitutional).

BSK leaves his call for secularism with the latter position -- that religious should necessarily be excluded (unless, of course it would agree, inwhich case I'm certain that he would accept such language).  That demand is rejected for two reasons.  First, because it is contrary to our history of democracy and open debate; second, because it places an unreasonable constraint on both the nature of the argument and those who are allowed to participate in the debate.  It is a shallow attempt to end the debate by control instead of allowing the debate proceed and so arrive at its conclusion.

 It has been held by many, for millennia, that man is the measure of all things. This is especially true in current dialogue on homosexual marriage. With reason, it is conjectured, intolerance and bigotry can be confronted and defeated. But reason always comes with its own baggage, even more than the variant definitions of secular.  Reason is a method, not a system of thought.

Incoherent Reason

The idea of the reason-driven life often, most often, lacks any coherent constraints or framework. With the practical ethic (the real framwork of this undefined thing called reason) floating somewhere between pragmatism and utilitarianism, it is easy to imagine a world where population reduction among minorities becomes a government program, where newborn children are left exposed to die (or are actively put to death), or where children have their brains sucked out, all in the name of someone else’s rights. A society with no moral constraint is a monster, as are those who promote and defend such behavior.

Reason also has no (for as a method it cannot have) definite teleology. As such it can only lead to tolerance when the reasoning person decides, arbitrarily, that tolerance is needed. It was reason that led to the intolerance of the Holocaust and the U.S. eugenics movement. The teleology of reason is at the whim of those in charge.

Reason as a criteria is also unfalsifiable. It is a term so broad that it can produce no mechanism which can be challenge. There is no measure for reason. Now, one might appeal to either European rationalism, or perhaps to Hindu ideals. But I have yet to find a Western secularist who is willing to push or throw a Hindu widow onto the funeral pyre in the name of tolerance. This is because the Western secularist still finds his moral home within the Christian ethic, no matter how hard they try to escape. That is their heritage and their inheritance.

Contradictory Results
 
Simplistic appeals to reason, with or without a recognized framework, seem to always result in this type of self-referential incoherence. A principle falls into this criticism when it cannot be applied to itself and so maintain its definition. Tolerance, or perhaps better the tolerance doctrine, allows itself to be intentionally and arbitrarily intolerant of opposing positions.

This is not the common principle of tolerance in interpersonal matters. But the tolerance doctrine is a type of policy directive which intends to specify certain items of concern while ignoring (not tolerating) contrary opinions.  In the case of homosexual behavior we are told that the behavior is to be tolerated.  at the same time the proponents of homosexual behavior and marriage express an intolerance of any orthodox Christian response to their message. 

The intolerance of the homosexual proponents goes as far as to disallow religious content to the objection.  This exclusivity not only begs the question on its face but also creates an intrinsically histile atmosphere, thus stifling dialogue.  (That appears to be the the intent.)  This type of "just go away" or "shut up" attitude not one where teh Christian ought to be silent.

The tolerance doctrine is in fact misdefined.  It is merely a pragmatic, somewhat utilitarian, and altogether naturalistic world view that seeks to replace Christianity with its own theodicy.  Still, as a form of tolerance it is incoherent and as an alternate world view is it both intolerant and intolerable.

On Homosexual Marriage

In light of the failings of both reason and secularism as valid foundaitons for establishing homosexual rights such as marriage, we can now raise other foundation as suitable objections.  The question of immorality is certainly suitable, given the general public sentiments about the nature of marriage.

Though the homosexuality proponents have enjoyed a great deal of success in their public persuasion regarding "love" and their redefinition of "marriage" and "family" to include most everything.  But the discussion is far from over.  It takes little effort to show the meaningless of these arbitrarily broad definitions.  By appealing to classic definitions of these terms have maitain a simle historic defense of traditional marriage and at the same time show the incoherence of their new dictionary.

In a final, desperate appeal the homosexual proponent might become libertarian.  The quesiton of "no harm" is frequently raised.  This might be valid if we were living in a nation which was so libertarian.  but we do not.  Sexual morality is a part of state alws, and ought to be, to reflect the nation's religious constituency.  Were we also living in a religion-free society then the argument might find some other validity.  But again, we do not, so it does not.

Though that might appear arbitrary, it is not.  For public officials to promote immorality is a matter that the NT deals with (Mt. 14, John the Baptist v Herod).  For Christians to be silent on this would be inconsistent with the Biblical example.  (Going further, we ought confront sin in all areas of public life, irrespective of IRS intrusion.)

Conclusion

As arguments for homosexual marriage, the claims of secularism and reason fail.  Secularism fails because it is both vague and arbitrary.  Reason fails for its incoherents.  The remaining arguments of libertarian practice are both arbitrary and inconsistent.  Only a religious morality can be consistent, and the Christian position meets that criteria.

If this position amouts to bigotry, then I am also bigoted against a woman marrying a dolphin, borther marrying sister, polyandry, cohabitation, and so forth.  The inconsistency with the homosexual position is that the line between moral and immoral (if such a line even exists) is wholly arbitrary (for it can be nothing other).  The moral position has its support in Biblical revelation, and only that is consistent with human biology.

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Chip Berlet Hearts Nancy Pelosi

It's not been just a short while since Nancy Pelosi through out the Nazi brand at those who disagree with the fiscal policies and other related characteristics of the Obama administration.

Godwin would be proud.

What is the intent of this language?  It is to marginalize and minimize.  It is to demean and smear.  There is no substance to this talk.

Chip Berlet's language is not so obnoxious.  He does, though, encourage marginalization instead of dialogue.

Liberals and leftists tend to sneer at these Values Voter folks in the Christian Right. Keith Olbermann, Rachel Maddow, Markos Moulitsas, and other commentators and pundits get a lot of laugh lines when mocking and trivializing these folks.

Of course these are the same people that elected Ronald Reagan, and the Bushies I & II. These are the people that stopped the Equal Rights Amendment. These are the people that immobilized the Clinton Administration. These are the people trying to take down the Obama Administration.

Will they succeed? Perhaps. Maybe not. But while liberals and leftists keep laughing at them, the Christian Right will be busy trying to craft a last laugh--and their track record is nothing to sneer at.

Then comes the comment which has remained undeleted.  Irrational as it is, the accusation follows suite with Pelosi's comment:

The Whacko Xtian Reich (none / 0)
Of course these are the same people that elected Ronald Reagan, and the Bushies I & II. These are the people that stopped the Equal Rights Amendment. These are the people that immobilized the Clinton Administration. These are the people trying to take down the Obama Administration. And You, being a member and associated with this group of Fascist Anal Retentives. If you religious freaks want to hear your blatherings, why don't you hold your meetings in your churches, don't tell me you don't have a large enough one to do so.... My question is, When will you people grow out of your superstitions and finally realize that science and education is the answer... You ignorance and stupidity have managed to pretty much destroy the country of my birth. Even Europe has learned that you don't mix religion and government, but then again, those people are educated...... Hmmmmmmmm, maybe that is the reason I pack a French Passport and not a gun these days Just this old Chief's 2 cents

Mr. Berlet (or someone on his behalf) had the good sense and integrity remove that comment.

Another commenter reflects the attitude and rehetoric of former Vice President Al Gore:

We could take your advice Chip, and not mock or sneer at them. However we'd still end up being their strawmen. They need us godless heathens to rail against like they needed the commies to build up the Military Industrial Complex, change the pledge of allegiance, and so on.

What we need to do is hold that funhouse mirror up and tell them, "See that? You're the American Taliban".In some ways the Taliban have done more to help break the grip of the RR than anything else.

Maybe we should send them a nice Hallmark thank you card

And they wonder why we think they are elitist.  Do tell.  Some do not even recognize when they have appointed admitted, self-acknowledged communists to administration positions.

What remains is some valuable criticism from commenter (and regular poster) Frank Cocozzelli:

Too many of us on the Left kick down at these folks. Instead of trying to win them over, we needlessly mock them. As a result they easily buy into the Right's frame that "liberals think that they are superior to you." Then after deriding them we can't figure out why many of these folks automatically tune us out and why our message never isn't even considered.

It is good to see an acknowledgement on the Left that the method is elitist and destructive.  What they may not understand is that education is the current driving force of the conservative movement.  The exposure of the redistributive agenda as a component of a Marxist ideology has been spoken for the last two decades and is now sinking in.  Couple that with (at least) two self-acknowledged communists who are building on the Clinton/Wilsonian (definitely Marxist) foreign policy and the picture of the turn of 19th c. liberalism is becoming ever clearer.

When the well-meaning but naïve members of the progressive movement begin to understand the intention of the most recent incarnation of conservativism (being both social and economic), that it's goal is to tell the Left to (1) drop Marxism, and (2) control those knee jerks, then there can be dialogue.  Until then, the East coast elitists will dominate modern liberalism and will continue to evade the Constitution.

Yet Mr. Berlet expends additional energy using that old, trumped-up "RAAAACCCIIISSSSTTTT" shout that is part of the Left's regular rhetoric.  You see, any time you draw a characture of President Obama it just has to be racist.  No ifs, ands, or buts.  They have done it here for decades.  And for those who recall the reaction to the "conservative" seeking office in France a few years ago, it is an international phenomenon.

If you are conservative then your motives must always be questioned.  Off-the-scale paranoia.

Jimmy Carter did it.  So it must be right.

Tired clichés just wear down the dialogue.  But again, given Mr. Berlet's recent posts, dialogue is not what he has in mind.  Does he think this old party line talking point will work any longer?  It has already worn pretty thin, so much that the real racists, the specific ones who deserve legitimate criticism, may go forward with little damage. 

It seems to not matter that he found material regarding Al Gore.  Unless, of course, Al Gore was our first black vice president.  That might make it racist.  Must be.  Has to be.  Can't be any other way. 

As conservatives we must maintain our ownership of our own political property, for our sakes, and for the sake of the popular liberal and Left voting block (and even bloggers) who have no idea what is going on.

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More Nationalization by Nancy Pelosi

Rush reported today, in regard to a Washington Post column series: 
In less than a year the federal government has squeezed out most or all of the competition.
While this made it possible for many borrowers to keep getting loans and helped protect the housing market from further damage, the government's newly dominant role -- nearly 90 percent of all new home loans are funded or guaranteed by taxpayers -- has far-reaching consequences for prospective home buyers and taxpayers.
Yes, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac have taken over approx. 90% of the loan or loan guarantee market.
 
President Obama said as recently as 2007, as he began clarifying his agenda:
But I don’t think we’re going to be able to eliminate employer coverage immediately.  There’s going to be potentially some transition process.  I can envision a decade out, or 15 years out, or 20 years out …
The house is voting today for a federal take-over the student loan market.  Yes, another piece of private finance is being nationalized.
 
Wonder why I call these people nouveau communists?  They are working toward complete nationalization of the private sector, step by step, inch by inch.  Decade by decade.
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Joe Wilson Should Apologize When ...

... When Nancy Pelosi takes to the floor to apologize for calling Nazis those who dare to disagree.
 
But don't hold your breath.
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